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Broadband Announcement: Message from Julian Smith MP

July 17, 2012

As you may have seen, North Yorkshire County Council has just announced it has selected BT to roll-out high speed broadband across the County, with a promise of 90pc of premises receiving greater than 25MBs downstream and 5MBs upstream with 100pc of premises receiving between 2MBs and 25MBs, by 2015. Read the full press release here >>

This announcement is the modern day equivalent of the coming of the railways or the introduction of canals. The award of this contract marks an exciting moment in the development of high quality, high speed broadband across North Yorkshire.

North Yorkshire and York Members of Parliament came together 18 months ago to support the bid for Government money to improve internet connections because, for too long, homes and businesses in this county have lagged behind more urban areas in the digital revolution.

Over the next months and years, this campaign will be working with, and pushing, North Yorkshire County Council and BT to ensure as many families and businesses as possible get connected to high speeds.

You will be able to hear more about the roll-out plans at the second Broadband North Yorkshire Conference on Saturday 29 September 2012 – further details about this will follow very soon. 

With best wishes,









Julian Smith
Member of Parliament for Skipton and Ripon

3 Comments leave one →
  1. desouzr permalink
    July 17, 2012 1:02 pm

    Good to see that the contract has finally been awarded and that work is starting immeadiately. Looking forward to the second North Yorkshire Broadband Conference in September and to having SFBB in Pateley Bridge within the next couple of years.

  2. September 6, 2012 12:14 pm

    This might not be a good thing at all. Do you know the speed of broadband that the existing copper telephone wires can carry? Do you know why we don’t currently have fast broadband?

    BT does not need £50m of public money to increase broadband speeds in Yorkshire.

  3. MikeW permalink
    September 12, 2012 5:31 pm

    Yes – existing copper can carry between 50 and 100Mbps per twisted-pair, depending on the distance you are from the nearest cabinet (between 200 and 600 metres away). Beyond 1km, it won’t be worth the name of fast.

    But it is only commercially viable to build the cabinets in places where all these apply: a) there is sufficient density of houses within 1km of the cabinet, b) the fibre backhaul can be cost-effectively trenched back to some other part of the (fibre) network, and c) the people within those properties are willing to pay for such broadband (at roughly £15pm, or a £10pm premium over non-fibre).

    And those 3 are the main reasons why we don’t currently have fast broadband – it just isn’t commercially viable at the density we have in NY.

    But it isn’t £50m of public money…

    The £70m total that it is taking to do this in NY is made of £18m from BDUK (UK taxpayers), £9m from EU taxpayers, and £44m from BT. The breakdown suggests that BT are spending £34m on the commercially viable parts, and there is a total of £37m being spent on the non-commercially-viable parts.

    So… more than half of the budget for bringing 90% SFBB coverage to the entire county is actually for non-commercially-viable coverage. Sounds like a subsidy is precisely what is needed here…

    That’s very different from where I lived in Surrey. They just announced £33m to get to 100% coverage – but only £1.3m comes from BDUK and £20m from Surrey CC.

    Which makes me ask… why isn’t NYCC putting any funding into the pot? I thought BDUK funding had to be matched by local funds…

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